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By Charles Johnston · October 1, 2026

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Ibogaine versus Iboga and the difference between plant and molecule

The video above is the full conversation. You can also listen to it or read the transcript. What follows is the same argument in writing, with more of the background behind it and the research it touches.

People ask me all the time whether iboga and ibogaine are the same thing. The short answer: iboga is a plant, and ibogaine is one of the alkaloids the plant makes (Farrow et al., 2018). Ibogaine HCl is a salt form of that one compound, purified into a white powder. They are related. They are not interchangeable.

I am initiated in Bwiti and continue training with Gabonese elders in Brazil and Gabon. I have also worked at multiple ibogaine clinics. Those experiences shape the questions I bring to this conversation: what do we gain when we isolate a molecule, what might we leave out of the wider tradition, and how do we take medical assessment and safety seriously while respecting that tradition?

1. What is the difference between iboga and ibogaine?

Tabernanthe iboga is a shrub from Central Africa. Its root bark contains a family of related alkaloids, which are the plant's naturally occurring active compounds. Ibogaine is the most abundant of them, and it is the one science pulled out, purified, and studied. If you want the basics on the molecule itself, start with what ibogaine is.

In the video I put it this way: iboga is ibogaine, but ibogaine is not iboga. Said more precisely, iboga contains ibogaine, and ibogaine on its own reproduces neither the whole plant nor the traditional setting it has been taken in for generations.

Think of a single instrument and the ensemble it plays in. The violin is in the orchestra, but a violin alone is not the orchestra. That picture describes what is in each preparation. It does not tell you which one works better, and I will come back to that.

2. What my Bwiti initiation and training have taught me

My initiation and my ongoing training with Gabonese elders are where my questions about isolation come from. I speak from my own training and lineage here. Bwiti is not one uniform practice, and I would not speak for all of it.

The thing the tradition has taught me most clearly is that iboga is a spiritual medicine before it is anything else. It was a medicine long before anyone used it for addiction or gave it in a hospital. In the tradition, the plant is not taken as a one-night event, and you are not alone with it: there are people around you who know the medicine, and there is time before and after.

That shapes how I see the clinical model. When we isolate one molecule and deliver it in a few days, we keep the chemistry we can measure and risk losing the setting, the relationships, and the time that the tradition treats as part of the medicine. Nothing about my initiation is a medical qualification. It is the lens I bring.

3. What I learned from working at multiple ibogaine clinics

Before Nekawa, I helped launch six ibogaine projects in Mexico and Costa Rica. I also went through ibogaine treatment myself, in Tijuana in 2013. So I have seen this from both sides.

A few things kept coming up. Programs were short, often only a few days, and people were on a plane home soon after the medicine. In my own experience it takes at least a week before I even want to look at my phone again, and for some people it takes weeks. Expectations were often set by marketing, and people came out of treatment feeling they had not got what they were promised. And the support afterwards was thin at exactly the point people needed it most.

These are my observations, not outcome data. They are the reason I care so much about preparation, time, and people around you afterwards.

4. Ibogaine HCl and full-spectrum preparations

Most clinics use ibogaine HCl. It is precise, easy to measure, and behind most of the published research. The alternative is iboga root bark itself, or a full-spectrum extract that keeps the plant's alkaloids together.

Clinics have long avoided the plant, and the concern is real. Root bark varies, and products are often mislabeled. One lab analysis of products sold by treatment providers found that ibogaine content ranged from none to about three quarters, with unidentified substances in almost every sample (Bouso et al., 2020). So "full spectrum" on a label tells you very little by itself. What matters is the actual preparation, how it was tested, and whether its ibogaine content is known.

I value the wider plant experience. Researchers have raised the possibility that the other alkaloids work together with ibogaine (Michele & Sophie, 2023), and in my experience the visionary side tends to open more fully with the whole plant. But whether those alkaloids improve safety, effectiveness, or the experience itself is still a research question. The published picture on visions is mixed: in one survey of people who had taken ibogaine, most said visions filled a large part of the experience (Heink et al., 2017).

5. Why I question the focus on one intense experience

Most clinics give a flood dose: one large dose, and that is the treatment. The traditional pattern I was trained in spreads smaller amounts over several days, so the experience builds instead of peaking once and dropping away.

I care about this because what ibogaine does best, in my experience, is introspection. It puts you in front of your own life. One intense night gives you a glimpse. Several days give you time to understand what is coming up.

There is a safety argument people make for it too, me included. A large analysis released this year found that every death in its data, six of them, was in someone treated for opioid use disorder, at flood-sized doses (Arns et al., 2026). That study is a preprint, not yet peer reviewed, and the authors call their rate a floor, not the true figure. Less ibogaine at any one moment should mean a lower peak load on the heart.

But nobody has shown that smaller, repeated doses are safer or more effective. Ibogaine's main metabolite stays in the body for days and builds up when doses are repeated. In one published repeated-dose study, the researchers named that build-up as the main limitation, and one of fifteen patients died during treatment (Noller et al., 2018). This is treatment philosophy, not dosing advice. See Nekawa's safety information for the medical side.

6. Spiritual meaning alongside medical care

Right now ibogaine is framed almost entirely as a medical treatment. My view is that the spiritual side should come first, with medical care built around it, not left out.

In practice that means preparation before the medicine, spiritual guides with you during it, and community afterwards: people who have been through it and can sit with you when the hard part arrives. Bill W., who co-founded Alcoholics Anonymous, described addiction as a spiritual problem at its root, and I think he was onto something.

That is my perspective, not the whole picture. Addiction and mental health also have biological, psychological, and social sides. For opioid use disorder, ongoing evidence-based care matters: people who received medications such as methadone or buprenorphine after a nonfatal overdose had lower death rates in the following year (Larochelle et al., 2018). If you take prescribed medication, do not stop it on your own.

7. What research supports and what remains uncertain

Personal experience and clinical evidence are different things, and you deserve both, clearly labeled.

On the evidence side: in a small observational study of 30 people treated for opioid use disorder, many reported less withdrawal and less drug use afterwards, though only about a quarter reported a month without opioids at the one-year mark (Brown & Alper, 2018). With no comparison group, a study like that cannot show that ibogaine beats other treatments, or that it cures anything.

On safety: ibogaine can disturb the heart's electrical timing, known as QT prolongation, which can raise the risk of dangerous arrhythmias. Picture the heart muscle taking longer to reset electrically after each beat. In a Dutch hospital study of 14 people given a single dose, half reached a level cardiologists treat as a warning sign, and all had severe but temporary trouble walking (Knuijver et al., 2022). Heart rhythm problems are among the most serious adverse events in the published reports (Ona et al., 2022).

Neither a traditional setting nor a purified preparation removes that risk. Screening and monitoring are needed either way.

8. Questions to take into a conversation about care

If you are considering ibogaine, for yourself or someone you love, ask:

  • What preparation is being used? Ibogaine HCl, root bark, or an extract, and has its content been tested?
  • What evidence supports this approach, and what is the provider's own experience rather than research?
  • Who decides whether it is medically suitable for me, and who checks my medications for interactions?
  • What monitoring happens during and after, including heart monitoring?
  • What support is there afterwards, and for how long?

The 2016 clinical guidelines for ibogaine-assisted detoxification are a useful educational reference for these questions (Dickinson et al., 2016). They are not a regulatory standard.

So, ibogaine or iboga? For me, both: the respect for the plant and its tradition, and the seriousness about medical safety. If you want to find out whether this is a fit for you, start Nekawa's screening process, and talk it through with a qualified clinician as well. You will get an honest assessment, not a promise.

This conversation is one of the four subjects in our live webinar with Tricycle Day on October 24.

About the author

Charles D. Johnston is co-founder and lead teacher of Nekawa. After years of heroin and cocaine addiction, he went through ibogaine treatment in 2013 and helped launch six ibogaine projects in Mexico and Costa Rica before founding Nekawa in Brazil. He is initiated in Bwiti and continues training with Gabonese elders in Brazil and Gabon. He is the author of Facets of Ayahuasca (2018) and executive producer of Curandera (2025). Read his story.

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Transcript

[0:00] So in the question of Ibogaine vs. Iboga, I think what's really important to think about is that the Iboga experience has been happening for hundreds, thousands of years and we've isolated one molecule out of that and essentially taken out the essence of what has been done for a long time. And so I think that when we're talking about Ibogaine vs. Iboga, it's important to remember that Iboga is Ibogaine, but Ibogaine is not Iboga.

[0:34] And if we're trying to look at health, sure, we can look at medical Western health, but there's people who have been doing this for a long time helping people get through spiritual problems and it's vital that we start to reconsider what we're doing. So three things that I think

[0:50] are most important are first the idea behind flood dosing or cumulative dosing. And when I talk about flood dosing, it's this idea of I'm going to do one large amount 10 to 15 milligrams per kilogram of Ibogaine and then that's it. Maybe some small amounts after that, but that's it. Let's go this way. Whereas when we talk about cumulative dosing, which is more in line with tradition, it's this idea that you're doing fairly large amounts, not quite what a flood dose is, not even close, maybe 30% of a flood dose, but you're doing over a period of a few days. So you're getting to be in the experience of Ibogaine for multiple days.

[1:40] And what's so great about Ibogaine is the introspection. It's a powerful introspective experience. And so the longer time that you get to be in that, the more your brain is going to repair, the more you're going to have time to understand what's going on and think about your life, rather than just trying to get one peak moment where you realize things and have maybe visions, although most people don't have visions with Ibogaine, rather we're looking at long progressive experience that allows the body to reset and come into a natural state. So that's why I think the medicine will change where instead of doing flood dosing, we're going to go towards cumulative dosing in the industry. And you already see that a lot of people are doing smaller flood doses because it's safer, but now they're going to start doing rather than flood dose, it's going to be low dose over this period of time, cumulative dosing that's going to be more effective.

[2:36] Can you speak on why it might be more effective for people with substance use disorder? Yeah, totally. So the recent study showed that in the last few years they analyze all the treatments that are going on for a while and the deaths that are occurring are people in substance use disorder. And so if we can lower the cardiac risk by giving less Ibogaine and keep the cardiac risk down, but the Ibogaine mitigates withdrawal symptoms and helps people be out of the difficult phase of what they're going through with substance use disorder, then we're you know, we're getting two, we're cutting two flowers with one cut. And that's really the idea is that we want to reduce risk, but still provide a really fulfilling experience, which is what they've been doing for a long time. Yeah, love it.

[3:30] So my second point is talking about what is the medicine? And right now Ibogaine HCl is getting a lot of attention and they're making analogs of that and they're doing all kinds of things with that. But there's also this idea of Iboga and full spectrum Ibogaine. So all the alkaloids of the plant being provided to someone and in the past historically clinics have said, oh, that's dangerous because you have different alkaloids. You don't know what they're going to do, but they've been used for a long time. And I think that's a positive. We don't know what they do. And maybe they actually enhance the experience and make the experience better for people than what it is right now, where people are having minimal visionary experiences, minimal psychedelic experiences with Ibogaine HCl and people are feeling underdosed.

[4:26] They're feeling like they didn't get what was promised. And I know in social media you have people talking about you're going to realize you're a child of God and you're going to realize your life review and all this. But what if because we're stripping out all the other alkaloids, they're not having that very often. It's a rare experience, but when you do Iboga, it's much more common. So I believe that and this is not something the pharmaceutical industry wants because they're not going to register a medicine that has a bunch of different alkaloids. But as far as the effectiveness of addiction treatment and mental health and the effectiveness of what this medicine can do, you need all the alkaloids. You need full spectrum Ibogaine. You need natural Ibogaine treatment. And that's what we're going for is to create that model for people where they can have the full experience over multiple days and really be able to find what it is that they need in their life to move forward. Right now, the focus on Ibogaine is as a medical treatment, but

[5:23] we're missing something. As I've mentioned a couple of times, this medicine was a medicine long before we started using it for addiction or in hospitals or anything like that. And so our idea is to rather than focus on medical first, focus on spiritual first because it is a spiritual medicine and addiction and mental health are spiritual diseases. They are not mental problems. They're not brain problems. We've learned that with antidepressants. We've learned that with all the pharmaceuticals that we've created. They don't actually help the people. And Bill W. talked about this as well. He said, look, addiction is a spiritual issue.

[6:07] And so we need to view this medicine first spiritually and support it spiritually first and then have medical care around that spiritual experience. That, I think, is the way forward in utilizing Ibogaine natural Ibogaine treatment, because if we don't do that, we're going to do the same thing we've done with every other thing in this world where we strip away the essence of it and we start applying it and giving it to people. And it becomes something totally different than what it was originally meant to be. So our focus here is to provide a natural

[6:39] spiritual first and safe Ibogaine treatment that incorporates the full spectrum of the plant, incorporates the full tradition of the lineage of Bwiti and the African people, and allows people to really get the experience that they're looking for with Ibogaine. That isn't being done anywhere else right now. You have Iboga clinics, you have Ibogaine clinics, but the merging of the two is the intersection that we want to see going forward. So that's what we do here, providing natural Ibogaine treatment.

[7:15] Love it. Yeah. So Ibogaine versus Iboga? Well, both. Both. All right. Awesome.

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